Chuck-a-Burger by Florissant Meadows--the absolute best strawberry cheesecake and my friend Regina always wanted to go there and I think we spied on someone but I sure can't remember who or whom . . . hmmmm  I can't believe I don't remember.  If you hung out with the newspaper staff people you were always working on the darn paper or running to McDonald's for them--if I recall correctly.

I have gone completely brain dead [what's new] . Please refresh my memory as to exactly where the Chuck-a-Burger  by Florissant Meadows shopping center was.

Well, I believe it was where the Baskin-Robbins is now. Patterson and Lindbergh, southeast corner. At least that's *my* memory trying to function here.

Mary, it was Tom Carter. He worked in the kitchen. :)

I think I recall now.....you two spying on Tom Carter? That was before they called it stalking, so..........

Sara Chaney, Linda Zesch, and Jimmy Keetch also went with me at times. We weren't really spying; we were visiting. ;) I always ordered a cheeseburger, cherry Coke, and cherry cheesecake, and Tom would come out and say, "That has to be Ahrens!"

I'm not sure that's Florissant Meadows, btw, but Mary has a mind like a steel trap, so she's probably right.

AND ... Mary's right again! Here's a map. No wonder Florissant's so confusing. Look at Lindbergh: it goes NE / E / NE / E / and then dips slightly South .... I guess it's following the Missouri River.

When we moved here from KC in 1963, my mother had a conversation with our new parish's priest. She was telling him how much she missed KC and how she preferred it to STL (where she had also gone to college). He said, "Kansas City was planned, and St. Louis just kind of happened."

I think that's due in part to the "lines" the two rivers draw and to the rapid development - also thanks at first to the rivers. Then, of course, we were *almost* a railroad hub, and then became one of the crossroads for interstate highways, and then TWA's hub for a while (if memory is working now).

Tom was smart as a rocket scientist, as I knew him.....ahhh, Cherry Cokes, the BEST!

From my understanding of archtectural history, there was no city planning when St. Louis was developed. If you had the finances to build a tract of houses/buildings, you could put the streets in any fashion you wanted, and name them as well. In those days, most everything came/went to the area of the present Arch grounds...that's why when you get to the "City", you have all these little triangles of property that are too small to do anything with. KC had a most definite plan, and is very easy to find ones' way around it.

Was this the same place that I think was a Big Boys for awhile?  They had a huge root beer that came in a fish bowl?

Tom is a university math teacher now in the Chicago area. I've emailed him twice, but he hasn't joined this site.

Dennis, I'm not sure, since moving to the South Side 30 years ago, Florissant [except old town] has changed drastically.

Tom being a University math teacher is no surprise, I hope he joins us! Keep trying!

chuck a burger was where the baskin robbins is now and it was the old big boy for awhile also. used to go to the teen dances once in awhile at st marks methodist church anyone remember them senior year and after hung out at steak and shake and shakees pizza neither of which are still there

The Chuck-a-Burger is about where the White Castle is now, if I recall.  Sits on North Lindbergh at Patterson Road. 

The good ole days, right?  My Chuck-A-Burger was turned into a used car lot for a while.  You think STL is confusing (which it is), in Hampton Roads we have eastbound I-64 that is actually going west.  I get confused everytime I return to STL.  Coming back the first of May for daughters wedding in Wentzville area.  That, too, has changed drastically.  I remember driving on I-70 and leaving the city limits of St Charles and not seeing life again until Wentzville.  Now it is just one huge suburb; and the traffic really sucks.  I'm surprised there isn't more road rage killings in the area.  We get all the "thugs" from NYC down here.  Gets quite messy sometimes.  The biker gangs are quiet here, also.  We have hundreds of Navy SEALs that are bikers and you never know if you start some junk with a rider, he may be a SEAL and really mess you up.....it's great here.